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Made the cut last night and I'm officially a member of the Untitled Writers Group.

Which is good, because it's going to force me to write every day so I'll have something to submit every two weeks. It will keep me in a crit state of mind as well. I'm a firm believer in the critique process; once you set your mind in the right tracks, you're able to improve your writing.

So, first order of business this week is rewriting "Sacrifices." Second order, outline for either Doe or The Sun Also Sets. In fact, Here's a poll:

Poll #1100430 New Year, New Projects

What novel should the muse get?

Doe
3(42.9%)
The Sun Also Sets
4(57.1%)


The first option is the second novel I attempted, way back before the century changed. I'm going to try a fantasy setting this time. When it was a science fiction novel, it was about a clone used as a sex slave. "Romeo, Unbound" is a stand-alone novelette that would work as an opening chapter, but it's found the recycle bin everywhere I've sent it. the fantasy slant I'm considering is changing Romeo/Doe from a clone and writing him as a golem.

The second option is the sequel to Only The Dead, which is the historical vampire romance currently under submission with agents. The editor who was kind enough to read it really liked it and thought it was "uber-commercial" but I've yet to get anything but a rejection to the proposal. Partly my fault for writing a horrible synopsis in the 2-5 pages allowed by the various agent requirements, partly just the luck of the draw. The one response I got from an agent was polite and professional and the speed with which it was sent was greatly appreciated.

And, lastly, I'm going to be rewriting/tightening "Mother of Exiles" late next week once I get edits from Ideomancer.

Comments

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rhonawestbrook
Dec. 4th, 2007 06:55 pm (UTC)
Tell me more about this group. Is it open to others who are interested? Where would I go to find out if I might qualify if it is?
stevenagy
Dec. 4th, 2007 07:05 pm (UTC)
it's a local group, invite only.
rhonawestbrook
Dec. 4th, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC)
In that case....double congratts to you boy!
stevenagy
Dec. 4th, 2007 07:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks. :-)
ccfinlay
Dec. 4th, 2007 07:05 pm (UTC)
Congrats on the UWG! I remember being wowed by there after meeting Stephen Piziks and Sarah Zettel at a Confusion back around 1999. A lot of those folks have gone on to do impressive work since.

Don't know enough (about markets or the books) to have an opinion on which project you should work on....
stevenagy
Dec. 4th, 2007 07:13 pm (UTC)
Don't know enough (about markets or the books) to have an opinion on which project you should work on....

That's OK. I'm still a spec writer at this point, so I'm as clueless about markets as well. So, I'm writing to entertain myself. If I'm fortunate enough to sell something ... all good. I can only write what I like and put everything into making it as good as possible. Good for the skill sets. :-)
hominysnark
Dec. 4th, 2007 08:18 pm (UTC)
I picked Doe because the bits of it I read, I loved. I haven't seen any of t'other one. :)
stevenagy
Dec. 4th, 2007 08:24 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. I definitely think it can work as a fantasy. When I thought about it, he is essentially a golem in the earlier drafts -- just a technological one rather than a magical one. I don't need to put on my Mr. Science hat if I go this route and can just make up stuff that holds together logically as a magical system and get the same effect without such a huge suspension of disbelief.
crimini
Dec. 4th, 2007 11:03 pm (UTC)
'grats on the writers group.

There are a couple of pros and cons to writing sequels. One, you have book one and two done and ready for publication should a publisher be found. Easy peasy for said publisher and less work for you. a) It proves you can finish novel-length work and b) publisher may ask you to do minor revisions (less work all around) and then put them in pub schedule sooner than if they had to wait for writer to finish work. Also, they can buy up the two books in one sweep (which has its pros and cons, too). OTOH, if you spend all the time on a sequel for a duology that never sees publication, is it time wasted? I don't think so--they're ready works for later. Or trunk novels, but not wasted. I still think they're worthwhile... even if only for the honing of your skills.

Writing the Doe book could be fun for you... there's obviously a market for those kinds of novels. But in the end, you have to put your energy into the one you think you want to write the most--you'll be spending time on it. Which one would you rather spend that time with? If, in the end, you like them both equally, then I think it's a coin toss. :)
stevenagy
Dec. 5th, 2007 12:04 am (UTC)
Thanks for the conga rats and the comments. :-)

It is a bit of coin toss as far as the muse is concerned. She likes the world I've created with Only The Dead but she still wants to write Doe at some point, once I'm good enough to do it right. Setting up the poll sets the forces of synchronicity in motion for the coin flip -- or at least lets me know how many times to flip the coin. ;-)

I agree that's it's not a waste in either case. Skills improve the more I write, as long as I keep learning from what I did before and how I did it. Only The Dead needs a sequel, if only to tie up the threads I left at the end. Technically, I didn't leave anything untied, but I did leave it open for people to ask what happens next with the characters. Does that make it a duology? A series/sequel? Pros and cons abound no matter what way I answer the question. Without a contract/agent/publisher it's just all fun conjecture on my part as to what's best because it's all good, since it keeps me writing. Which is what I want to do. Which is what I need to do. :-)

Both projects will require a lot of outline work because I don't want to take years to write one or the other. Ideally, I outline one, write the first draft as a Novel In 90 project, knocking out at least 4 pages a day, and then squeeze in some short work before tackling the other one. Imrpoving all the time. knocks wood

Once I get the short story rewritten this week, I'll literally flip a coin -- and then hem and haw over those results. ;-)

Doe promises all the nice made-up stuff. The Sun Also Sets promises all the fun secret history/Lost Generation research and made-up stuff.
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